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I want to be a Mouseketeer [May. 25th, 2004|01:24 pm]
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[kidred5]

Name: Robert Derrick Jefferies
Age: 19
Sex: Male
Hobbies/interests:Male

A) 5-10 top favorite bands with a brief description:
*David Bowie: They heterosexual's homosexual (o yes he is). Like all the good music i know, i
was exposed by my parents. Too bad it was when i tried to watch cartoons on Saturday
mornings.
*Air: Can be electro-popish head bopish or mellow sexy business. The only concert i went to
where i didn't feel bad for almost falling asleep.
*Etta James: If re-incarnation be true, may I be born again as a soulfull black women.
*George Gershwin: His songs have been resung by god knows how many people, each time, taking
on a totally different feeling.
*Bjork: her genious speaks for herself. No emotion is left neglected, just exhausted.

L) top 5 albums of all time:
*Amelie Soundtrack (Yann Tiersen): I have listen to that CD god knows how many times. It has
the ability to put me in a happy French mood no matter what. Excellent bikeriding music.
*Post (Bjork): My first, and most favorite, of the Bjorks. Unlike her first album Debut
which was sort of clubby and obvioulsy a solo introduction or her 3rd album Homogenic, which
was pretty much homegenous in it's style (hence the name), Post offers a variety of song
structures and instruments.
*The Planets (Gustav Holtz): Some of the buildups send shivers done my spine.
*Lost in Translation Soundtrack (various): again, i'm a nut for soundtracks. Living in a
rainy city such as Seattle, this one is key.
*Dummy (Portishead): I thank Layne for ever introducing me. Music i don't ever have to think
about but always gets me thinking. Nice in the darkroom as well.


B) 5 favorite books/authors including at least one nonfiction selection:
*21 Balloons (William Pene Dubois): I read this in 5th grade and it was the most fantastic
book. A man gets tired with the world so he builds a ship carried by 21 balloons to take him
to an island where he starts a new community. He describes all the inventions and whatnot.
*Any book by David Sedaris. It's rare that i laugh out loud when reading.
*Dune Trilogy (Frank Herbert): I love Sci-fi, especially when it deals with philosophy over
techno babble.
*A Common Faith (John Dewey): Summarizes my entire outlook on relegious experience and the
goal of mankind (more or less).
*Secret Paris of the 30's (Brassai): It's a book, but it's really a monograph of a 1930's
Parisian photographer i like. He took pictures of the nightlife, lovers, bums, high class,
night workers, "ladies of easy persuasion", bars, etc.

C) 5 favorite films/directors/writers:
*Ridley Scott: always knows how to film smoke beautifully (Blade Runner, Aliens)
*Jean Pierre Jeunet (Amelie for that matter): See music taste above. Very clean style.
*I actually really liked Gattacca for some reason. Formally pleasing, nice film quality.
*Chris Cunningham: Does the most amazing music videos and short films for Bjork, Aphex Twin,
Square Pusher, Portishead.
*Welcome to the Dollhouse: It's just so brutally honest.

D) Any favorite comedians?
Dave Chappelle, Bill Cosby, Gilda Radner, Lily Tomlin

E) Favorite Artists? Why? What medium do they work in?
O Geez!!!
*Sally Maan: (photo) beautiful and sensual children/decaying bodies
*Jock Sturges (photo): NW artist/naturist communities/renders flesh wonderfully
*Brassai: (photo) mentioned above
*Weegee: (photo) crime scenes/trauma/real character
*Witkin: VERY morbid setups with dwarves, amputees, dead bodies (parts), taxidermy, old medical equipment, allusions to western art, quiet sickening
*Diane Arbus: (photo) Freaks/anti-fairytales
Edward Weston: (photo) subject matter not of real interest, technical mastery is amazing
Hans Bellmer: (photo) distorted and deformed mannequins
E.J. Bellocq: (photo) hookers in masks, scratched negatives
Mondino: (photo) crazy color and concepts
Frederick Sommer : (photo) ambigous forms, fetal roosters
Michelangelo: (sculptor) amazing male figures, my type of porn
Caravaggio: (painter) dark, homosexual, hated for his time
Bernini: (sculptor) awe!!!
Pontormo: (painter) Mannerist, odd coloring
Bosch: (painter) way ahead of his time
Gericault: (painter) I like his naked dead men.
James Turrell: (architect) Temples of light and space
i'll leave it there.

F) 5 great things that have come out of TEXAS:
ZZ-top
James Turrell
Explosions in the Sky
Janis Joplin
Robert Rauschenberg


Question Forum: Try to answer at least 5 of the following with explanations as to why you have chosen that viewpoint... Convince me.

1) Abortion: pro-choice or pro-life? (legally and personally): Legally, pro-choice, it just isn't MY right to force someone else. Personally, pro-life. After seeing documentaries on fetal development and seeing the activity that goes on internally, i couldn't believe that someone would deny an amazing creature of such complexity and opportunity from ever having a chance to fully realize itself.

2) Gay marriages: seems odd, civil unions more like it. I guess if you are some new progressive Christian type, but civil unions seems more appropriate. I see the potentials for benefits, insurance, and decleration of love. Just for the hell of it seems kind of silly as they are only mocking a straight convention.

3) Racial profiling: help or hindrance? Hindrance. It reaffirms stereotypes that only produce more need for racial profiling. Vicious cycle.

4) The War on Terror: about as successful as the War on Drugs. There's no finish line..ever!

5) War in general: Fucking weird. Unnecessary, but a definite phenomenon. I think it is played up to be too romantic. Especially with all the pomp, tradition, and song that accompnies it. We go through elaborate dispalys of patriotism and whatnot, especially for funerals. If we pretend like someone really does die for a worthy cause like war, then we fail to ever realize the stupidity of the whole situation. I'm sure the military would disagree, but then again, that's why they get paid no?

6) Anybody like the Sopranos? favorite character/episode? this one's for breakermorant and does not necessarily reflect the views of the community as A-hole. no TV.

7) The Lakers:(Specifically Shaq or Kobe) What about the Yankees?(specifically A-rod or Jeter) blah

8) Previous two questions: stupid or significant? trivial

9) If you HAD to fuck an animal, what animal would you choose? polar bear, because then you could snuggle afterwards.

10) The Death Penalty: for or against? Against. Just instinctual. I could go into an elaborate arguement, but, against.


11) Drugs? Legitimacy of legalities, penalties, dangers, etc. go to town with it. Noone should be allowed to tell you what can or cannot go into your body. Especially if it is a naturally occuring phenomenon (mushrooms, pot, etc.) However, education, deymystifying the extreme negative and positives, and quality control are a must. No legalization as taxes would ensue, rather, decriminalization. Education is the most important part!!!!!
Before you go...


*tell someone about this journal in a post, reply, weblink, etc and prove it to me here.

*post a picture or two of yourself just so we know who we're talking to. like i said, it won't be used against you, unless we really really don't like you....or you're ugly.

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[User Picture]From: kidred5
2004-05-31 09:59 pm (UTC)
For someone who doesn't like the military all that much, your always at attention to defend it.

I haven't told you your job is unnecessary, i don't even know what you do. But please, enlighten me, or are you not allowed to tell me. Maybe that's why I don't understand the signifigance. Your top-secret clearance means you can't really talk about what's going on right.

My statement about war was generalized Taylor. I think it's too big and recieves too much funding that could be allocated to health care or education. Hence, my contempt for it. I haven't ever read a Michael Moore book, and haven't watched TV (let alone CNN), for more than 10 hours in the past year. You're making generalized statements as well. You often refer to my political views as being directly correalted to my geographic location (Seattle) and the fact that i'm in college. I know you don't like war Taylor. But I'm sure that because you are in the military, it would be alot harder (and suspicious) to become involved or inquire with anti-war, anti-bush propaganda stuff. What would your superious say if you went to a Socialists meeting? What would happen if you mentioned that at work. Would it raise eyebrows?

If you wish me to go further into this discussion i'm afraid you'll be disappointed.I haven't kept up with the news, in any form, for almost 2 months now and i'm completely lost on what's going on. I don't have time to do the research I used to when formulating my political convictions because i'm caught up in my major at the moment.

By the way, where the hell do YOU get your news from. If every source that i refer to is biased and baseless then what is your source. Is this some secret file that i can't look at, being just a regular citizen and all. God maybe? Enlighten me on where i can get the pure facts, the unbiased suff.

The space statmenent is grossly exaggerated. All of the money, no, some of the money, yes. magical plans, not really, plausible and scientifically beneficial, yes.

I'm glad I bothered you, that's the point of this community right.
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From: breakermorant
2004-05-31 11:17 pm (UTC)
first off, i made no referenc to you being in college. i simply used your geographic location because that's where you live and that's where you've been for the last two years.

and if you look back, i didn't "defend" the military. i defended my own honor and the honor of people who you so arbitrarily generalize as "the military". people who don't share any of these thoughts and points of view that you insist they must. you have this idea that because someone signs up for the military, they immediately become right-wing republican assholes who will stop at nothing to convince the world of the purity of the bush administration and the war. when, the reality is that most of these people sign up because they are druggies and slackers who needed someone to pay for college after they blew off their high school career. not a lot of people join the military for the hell of it...they do it because they need money or school. their opinions don't change too much. i don't defend the military as a whole or the actions portrayed by it, just my side of the spectrum and the fact that it is neccessary. i wish it weren't, but i could never say, knowing what i do, that america would be ok for a second without it. perhaps if we went back a few hundred years with the knowledge we have now, yes...but now- no fucking chance. so much of the economy, science, technology, law enforcement, trade regulation, etc is a direct result of the military.

again you make another zany, unresearched statement that it's probably hard for me to get unbiased information and education just because i spend 8 hours in a gov't office 5 days a week. as though i don't have internet, access to books, films, etc. shit...right now i'm reading a great anti-bush administration, anti-fox-news, anti-war, etc book by al franken entitled "lies and the lying liars who tell them". it's sitting on my desk and noone can or will say shit because i am entitled to my constitutional rights. when i get done here i will resume my daily ritual of logging on to the three or more news websites i check during the night including New York Times(which is surprisingly un-biased in general, the-hamster.com(whis is strictly anti-war/bush, buzzflash.com(which is much of the same), Bartcop.com(which is extremely anti-bush prop and news), and fairandbalanced.us (a pretty neat sight for all around news regarding politics and war, while claiming to be fairandbalanced, it is awfully against the war in iraq and the administration.) all of these decorate my screen at various points during the night, to which noone can say anything. yesterday i sent a mass email to my shift of pictures of bush's scarpes and bruises with a nasty commentary of how i hoped to have more pictures of his fall from office in november- along with a link to the 99+ reasons to not reelect bush. it's all taken with good humor here. i get called a tree-hugger and a communist pig all the time- in jest. everyone's pretty open to discussion and argument here. i could easily attend any meeting i wanted to without anything to say. i could attend a clan meeting tomorrow if i wanted. the only stipulation in the military is that i can't be a part of a public protest, for good reasons involving safety, accountabilty, and the all around effect it would have if someone were able to say that a member of the 690th division of the air force was taking part in an anti-abortion rally or something. as a part of the air force, i kind of reflect it as a whole. on that note, i just bought two new t-shirts online last week to wear to our physical training session...one reading, "instant asshole, just add oil"...with a pic of bush. and another reading, "who would jesus bomb?" with a picture of bush and bombs falling around his big face. i'm anxious to see how this will turn out...i'm almost positive it will piss some higher-ups off for real.

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From: breakermorant
2004-05-31 11:18 pm (UTC)

too many characters...had to split up my reply

you will find that i grossly exaggerate on most points. however, i still find it a waste of time and money to put research so far into mars, the moon, etc. do you honestly hope to one day achieve some sort of civilization on the moon or mars? and do you really think that it will be intended for you or anyone else who isn't loaded with money? do you think one day we will just be making regular flights to and from mars to ship people to live in this magical bubble envoronment of joy and opportunity? i'd rather move to kansas, anyway. why would anyone want to live on mars? we all know that there was once life on mars. if your real concern is that mars evolve, than let it do just that. let it take it's natural course and evolve or devolve as it sees fit to. we don't need to go spend 40 billion dollars to spill some green-goo under a rock up there and watch in wonder as it slowly takes hold over the next billion years or so. and perhaps one day our flipper offspring can migrate throughout the galaxy.

you don't bother me...the canker sore in my mouth bothers me. you just fuel my rage for brunettes.
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[User Picture]From: kidred5
2004-06-04 10:23 am (UTC)

Re: too many characters...had to split up my reply

My interest in Mars, at least for the moment, is not in colonization, but for pure scientific research. We don't know that there was life on Mars, we know that there was liquid water. However, if we do find evidence for life, or even the potential to assist life, then it helps answere many of man's deepest philosophical and spiritual questions. If we find that life is not just an anomaly of the third planet in some random galaxy, but rather a stage in planetary evolution then we will finally answer the question that has bothered us forever: are we alone. The scientific and galactic pursuit for understanding is a joy for not only our generation but ensures opportunity and understanding for our progeny. By the way, many technological innovations came out of the space program as well as the military.
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From: breakermorant
2004-06-05 06:08 am (UTC)

Re: too many characters...had to split up my reply

i don't know what your last sentence is about. i'm not against the space program at all. *shakes head* nuh'uh! no sir. i'm very aware of the goods of the space program, i'm just against trying to colonize the moon or mars or some useless shit like that that won't be offered to anyone but fucking socialites. i'm all for finding out if there was once life on mars. my only complaint is the possibility of "recreating" life on mars or colonizing.

as far as i'm concerned, the answer to "are we alone" has been answered since the beginning of time....no. i think it's ridiculous to assume that we're alone in any of this.(r.i.p. selena)but seriously...i'm a believer.
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[User Picture]From: kidred5
2004-06-06 11:17 pm (UTC)

Re: too many characters...had to split up my reply

Besides the Mars Society and other fanatics who fail to take into factor the more important domestic matters of poverty, hunger and disease, you'll find very few scientists who wish to invest in colonizing mars (or at least for the moment). Until our technology improves, which takes money, we will rely on robotics to explore the universe. This isn't to say that this is a bad thing, considering how fragile and vulnerable humans are in space. But, it does lack that human ideal of "we were there". Baby steps is fine with me.
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From: breakermorant
2004-06-11 07:51 am (UTC)

Re: too many characters...had to split up my reply

you know what... you've already been accepted. that means i win and you get, as a consolation prize, entrance to my elite society in whcih i know everything and the reader knows nothing. or not...i'm going to try and go advertise, so be on the lookout for people to attack.
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[User Picture]From: kidred5
2004-06-12 11:34 am (UTC)

Re: too many characters...had to split up my reply

aye aye captatin
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[User Picture]From: kidred5
2004-06-04 10:15 am (UTC)
of course i'm going to generalize as "the military" because it's "the military". That's not arbitrary, that's what's it's called.

I know that most of the kids who join up for the military don't want to be there and just need the benefits/college money. When speaking about the military that's not who i'm talking about. I never thought that you joined the military because you think you'd look sharp in a uniform, i knew it was because you didn't really know what you were doing after high school and you wanted to make sure you had college money. I'm attacking the high ranking officials. Those who think of the military as some higher power. Those who thrive in its existence and the effects it can cause. The pomp and formality that accompanies rank, status, etc. It is a big business, and like all businesses, i think it's just TOO big. Without a doubt the military has it's place and purpose, at least for now. I share this view on all forms of control. I think there's too much law enforcement as well.
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From: breakermorant
2004-06-04 11:28 am (UTC)
you didn't tell me anything. and i'm telling you you're wrong...it isn't "the military". you just admitted that it's the higher ups, and the few people who make the big decisions...mainly the president. it's very much an arbitrary generalization for something that is FAR more broad than any of that. it's like making generalized statements about "the music industry" or "the politicians" because you don't like the higher ups like 'geffen' or the republican stand-points. you might as well say, "enron fucked us all over" when you mean, "ken and the heads of the enron corporation really fucked us over.". as it turns out, the majority of the thousands of people employed by enron had nothing to do with any of it.

i could say, " UW sucks " because i hate your football team. don't hate "the military" because we get some bad orders handed down or because some people fuck up.


and are you saying there is too much law enforcement because you are against some laws? or is it because you think we need less cops for the growing crime rate that we're already falling way short on covering....possibly one of the reasons for racial profiling if it exists.
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[User Picture]From: kidred5
2004-06-04 12:56 pm (UTC)
It's the prsence of laws that i disagree with as well as the entire structure of our society that produces criminal behavior. I don't think we are crime rate is growing because people are just generally getting worse. Rather, we (Americans) have become very confused on what priorities are. Our emphasis on material wealth, the need for constant (even if horrible) entertainment, domineering media tactics in both advertising and news, lack of proper education foundations and growing disparities between classes add up to a very confused and angry country. I don't blame Americans who do not know how to fix their lives and country, i blame those who know what to do but choose not to in order to gain profit. I think i've strayed quite a bit from the original topic but i hope this starts a new discussion.
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From: breakermorant
2004-06-05 06:17 am (UTC)
do you honestly think things would clear up if we did away with all laws? it would be a fucking free-for-all. perhaps if laws were never instated, than we would be ok. but to just up and do away with the law would be a travishamockery.

it's still a choice people can make. i'm not going to "blame media" or education for some people's weak behavior. i listen to rap music and watch movies too but i would never get so confused that i thought it ok to kill, rape, or rob someone. that's utter bullshit. it's like blaming school violence on loud music or video games. if someone is so weak that their BASIC instinctual morals are torn down by the media, then they deserve to be locked up as far as i'm concerned. it's so easy to blame someone else rather than focus on the fact that everyone knows the difference between right and wrong and they make a conscious choice to go either way.

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[User Picture]From: kidred5
2004-06-06 11:34 pm (UTC)
I don't mean do away with all laws. Laws are ABSOLUTELY necessary and i wonder if you really thought that was what i meant. I disagree on your idea of BASIC instinctual morals. In fact, i think that's kind of an oxymoron. Instinctual morals that is. Instinct would refer to survival, take what you can when you can. Morals is about sacrifice, agreement, and cooperation. Noone is born with morals, they are taught to us. These morals, whether taught in villages, by parents, or collective communities are now being replaced by television, advertising, and educational institutions. I feel that we are fortunate in that our parents paid considerable attention to us and communicated how to be a sound, respectful, and intelligent person. For others, that might not have been the case. When people don't have any stability in their life, they will cling to the thing that is most assuring and promising. This could be promise of beauty and popularity by an advertisement or product for a young girl. Her need for acceptance, both socially and personally, could compel her to adopt extreme eating (or lack thereof) habits, buy overpriced clothes or act overtly sexual even if she personally doesn't feel comfortable with it. The promises of popularity, acceptance or whatever usually outweigh the "moral" foundation that a person might have. This "ugly girl" example has been beaten to death but it can be applied to all sorts of people. Rap music, for instance, is bittersweet for me. Speaking about life on the streets, surviving, taking what you can get etc. is remarkable because it is a valid objective description of what life is like living in poverty. It takes a human condition and shoves it in the popular media's face. However, when i hear rap that references this behavior it brings validity to crime. It's ok to do such-and-such because I have to. I don't know if you understand what i'm trying to say because you like rap a lot more than i do and i'm sure your outlook is different. Basically, what i'm trying to say, is that i think the majority of our ideals come from the media, rather than our parents.
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